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Topic:  Nearshoring in Mexico:  Understanding the Differences Between the Chinese and Mexican Business Cultures

Speaker: Jeffrey P Cartwright, Founding Partner at Mexico Strategic Sourcing Alliance

Presentation:

Nearshoring follows 2 paths.  First, most companies in the US purchase products from Chinese factories with whom they have a long-standing relationship. Second, fewer companies in the US own manufacturing plants in China.  Mexico offers both paths.

 

The first is more prevalent and identifying, qualifying, and competitively bidding with potential factories is far more complex in Mexico than China for the simple reason is that in China that factory will have a history of providing similar products to various customers in the US and Europe.  In the case of Mexico, there are few factories that currently manufacture the products which the US imports from China. The reason for this is that China largely provides finished products to the US and that Mexico has developed as an intermediate good manufacturer. The approach in Mexico for finished products is to identify an assembly factory with one or more of the key manufacturing processes. There are few factories in Mexico with the level of vertical integration that there is in China. Then the supply chain needs to be built out to furnish the components that are required for the assembly operation. This process invariably requires outside assistance as the factories have limited knowledge of component suppliers. Sometimes the components are not available in Mexico and that will require a blended supply chain with components from Asia (generally, electronics such as fractional motors, lithium batteries, etc.).

 

The second approach of relocating a manufacturing operation is also possible.  Mexico has a history of factory relocations from the US and other countries. The US company will need to acquire land, build a factory, relocate, or purchase equipment and train a workforce.  The US client should expect this process to take longer in Mexico than China.  It should also expect a learning curve with reduced productivity for the first year or two.  There are many resources than can assist in navigating the legal, regulatory, and other aspects of the start up and different resources for factory construction.  There is also an intermediate process of operating within a shelter.  This is basically an industrial real estate enterprise that provides the building, administrative services (taxes, payroll administration, security, registrations allowing for the importing and exporting of materials which avoid duties and tariffs under USMCA). However, the US company must provide equipment, training, operations management, and purchase of materials and components. Again, there are resources that are available to assist in the negotiations and set up of shelter operations.
 

Key Points:
Positive factors for Nearshoring to Mexico.  Proximity, bi-lingual factory management and engineers. Direct labor costs favorable to China and Vietnam. Lower inventory levels. Theft of intellectual property is not a concern.
 

Negative factors for Nearshoring to Mexico are on the near-term aspects of the process of negotiations. These often start with the US company not clearly understanding the manufacturing of its current products.  Mexican factories (as any new factory, anywhere in the world) require specifications and drawings in order to begin the quoting process.  Many US importers do not have current drawings (as the Chinese will sometimes change the product without informing the customer).  There are resources available to reverse engineer from sample to drawings and specifications.  However, unlike a Chinese factory that has a history of R & D (replicate and duplicate), this is not common at factories.
 

Response time is a challenge in Mexico and the process often takes significantly longer.


The pattern of price negotiations is significantly different in Mexico than the US or China.


Lastly, going alone in Mexico generally will result in disappointment rather than success.  Our best customers are those that who have tried Mexico on their own and failed.  They believed that because they could source in China that they could source in Mexico.


Unlike the US and China, there are no large trade shows in Mexico and no data sources like Thomas.net in the US or Alibaba in China to identify potential factories. Mexico is a relationship country and the only ways to know which factories have a needed manufacturing capability is through trusted networking or prior experience.  Even if a factory could be identified via the internet, without having a relationship with the potential customer, the vast majority of factories will not submit quotations.


After starting up, things significantly shift to advantages for the US company.  Short lead time from order to arrival. Quality concerns are alleviated in a culture that has focused on automobiles, medical devices, and aerospace manufacturing. In China, there is a degree of buyer beware that does not exist in Mexico.


Speaker’s bio: 
Jeffrey P Cartwright is a growth and bottom line-oriented senior-level executive with a strong record of success at Procter & Gamble, Frito-Lay, Newell-Rubbermaid, Dorel, and Igloo. Strong organizational, leadership, and product development skills. Experienced in mergers, acquisitions, turnarounds, and consolidations. Full P & L responsibilities at several businesses. Successful integration of 5 newly acquired companies. General Engineering degree from West Point and an MBA from East Carolina University. Portfolio PE company and public company successes.
 

In 2020 Jeff became a founding partner of the Mexico Strategic Sourcing Alliance focused on moving sourcing from China to Mexico. Whether you need help assessing the viability of a factory move or have already made the decision to move and now need to make it happen, MSSA is your resource.

Jeff also has in-depth experience in operations, supply chain, and China sourcing. Sales leadership with Wal-Mart (including 6 Vendor of the Year Award’s in 4 different departments), Sam’s, COSTCO, Target, Lowe’s, Office Depot, etc. Introduced new product categories with greatly enhanced margins. Launched new brands. Achieved placement at Target, Wal-Mart, Costco, and other major retailers.
 

Specialties include management, consumer products marketing and sales at Wal-Mart, Target, Costco, and Lowe’s. Industrial products including power tools and home building products. Asian sourcing including offices in China. Product development from concept (including IP) to retailer distribution. Manufacturing and supply chain, including new plants and distribution centers, site consolidations, purchasing, and transportation. Excellent talent evaluation and team building skills. Mergers and acquisitions and post-acquisition integration well beyond expectations.
 

Shoreview Management Advisors is a trusted advisor to a variety of businesses in the consumer products and industrial products industries. We generate bottom line impact and results for business leaders and executives, allowing them to achieve major operational success in a variety of areas from increased capacity to reduced manufacturing costs to outstanding customer service. In many cases, we enable significant revenue growth by turning operations and supply chain into distinct competitive advantages.

 

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Chapter Description

Welcome to the group!

We hope this group will prove to be extremely active and aggressive in networking and provide high quality job leads all over the world. The responses we've had thus far, from all over the globe, are a good indicator of the value you are already placing on this new and developing SIG. It is your group and we hope that besides the traditional strength of FENG networking, this group, in particular, will prove itself as an invaluable resource to us all; wherever we may find ourselves. Certainly, the composite experiences, globally speaking, are beyond just impressive!

This group is not just focusing exclusively on overseas positions, both contractual and permanent, but also on any US domestic positions that are international in scope. Obviously, there potentially exists an overlap here with the normal posting to the national FENG group but the probable worst-case scenario is that you get notified twice!

Like any evolving group, there needs to be some form of structure put in place so that, for us all, it is seen as seamlessly working and adding value over and above all those other networks and groups already established and functioning. Just being a FENG group per se is not good enough!

JOB LEADS:

The suggestions we are putting forward are not intended to be viewed as dictatorial or burdening, but rather to make the process work better for us all. Certainly, we are in the draft stages and open to either outright rejection of an idea or welcome modifications.

We would like to ask that before you submit any international job lead(s), you complete the following:
1. Job Title:
2. Location/Country
3. Salary
4. Languages required (if any)
5. Any mandatory prior experience (a few words)
6. Length of assignment (contractual only)
7. Contact Person, email address / telephone#

Naturally, not all this information is available for every job lead, but the thinking is that as we grow the number of leads hopefully will increase significantly and this process will help us all rapidly identify potential matches without needing to read unnecessary and often long job descriptions. How many of you have read long international job descriptions/details, only to find somewhere in the last paragraph that you need fluency in Russian etc.? This process attempts to expedite the identification of critical requirements immediately. Commonsense, of course, dictates that where only scant information is available then just submit as is!! We hope you have enjoyed seeing those leads we've already forwarded to you, though the procedures need a little smoothing still.

OUR VOLUNTEERS AND LOCAL MEETINGS/NETWORKING:

Local area coordinators:
We hope that local groups can be established with at least monthly meetings of the International SIG members being part of the local FENG network group meetings.

SOURCES OF LEADS:

We're hoping that all members will share any good internet sites and/or recruiters that focus on international assignments. We need you to encourage your contacts (and internal Corporate resources) to use this group to get overseas candidates for either contractual or permanent opportunities, much the way that FENG national works today, only difference being the focus.

Unfortunately, the economy has also taken a toll on what previously were excellent international job sites, so don't become frustrated with apparently dead-end web-links. Also, some sites (www.overseasjobs.com) may occasionally post an unbelievably great job in finance but most of the time you'll see nothing or jobs in catering etc, like fishing I guess, you have to keep trying and monitoring the site regularly!

FINALLY:

If you come across any information that could be helpful to international folks then please pass that along as well.

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